jackson crushed him, though, four years later. a bit of history for you this morning. >>> legendary american feminist and author gloria steinem is leading the fight to stop the war on women. that fight is also the cover story of ""ms." magazine. >> what it means is first controlling reproduction. you know, we're accustomed in this country to talking about production. we forget the controlling reproduction is even more important. so it would put women's bodies under literally government control with the human life amendment. it's also about refusing to support equal pay, which is quite astounding because i don't remember any presidential candidate who at least verbally has not agreed to support equal pay. and it is also interfering with such things as the violence against women act, even though in actually fact, more women have been killed by their husbands or boyfriends since 9/11 than americans were killed in 9/11, iraq, and afghanistan combined, and yet they have refused to extend the violence against women act. and so -- >> um